Life in
Ecuador: Phyllis Cooper,
Cotacachi Woman with a Vision
Interview by Linda McFarlin
Life
in Ecuador has not always been easy for Phyllis Cooper, who bought land
several years ago in Cotacachi while on sabbatical in South
America. Meeting difficulties with courage enough for ten
women,
she carved her own personal paradise out of a small-town
cornfield. Within
a few years’ time, Lueva, a
13-room retreat center in
Cotacachi, was open for business.
As you
drive into Cotacachi
from the Pan American Highway, taking the left fork into town down Diez
de Agosto, which is also known as Leather Street, you will see a big
sign on the left pointing down a cobblestone road. The sign
reads
Lueva, a word that sounds vaguely Spanish, but which is actually
Hawaiian for “love.”

Phyllis' property is a
12-acre spa, retreat and healing
center, conceived and brought to life through her strong desire. She is a North American woman of vision and
courage who first
came to Ecuador over a decade ago.
Her story
follows,
told to me one cloudy morning as we sipped tea in her dining room,
watching the hummingbirds zipping through her orchard.
I Was Not Coming to
Ecuador
Linda
– How did you end up in Cotacachi?
Don’t
know…. For many years I had plans to build a health retreat in
Mexico after retiring from university teaching.
In
1989-90 I was in South America for a sabbatical, doing research on
women in the Americas and stress. I formed the habit of
taking a
few
days off after interviewing professors at major universities, so I
could visit the area and learn more about the culture
of each
city and country.

Following
visits to Mexico, Guatemala,
Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama, and Colombia, my next stop
was Quito, to interview women faculty at the Catholic
University
and Central University, the two largest universities in the
1990’s. I took a day trip by bus to
Otavalo. Then I
was going to Peru.
But upon
returning to Quito, I happened to check the U.S. Embassy’s
travel
information, the only time I ever checked it during the trip.
The
information said not to go to Peru. Since I was travelling alone, I
decided to go back to Cotacachi.
A Strong Sense of
Connection
Linda
– How did you find the land for your retreat?
On the
return trip to Quito I met a man on the bus.
He invited me to meet his
family in Cotacachi. Since I had decided not to go to Peru at
this time, I went back to Cotacachi and looked up the guy I had met on
the bus. He agreed to act as my guide and we hired a
truck..
I don't
know why I asked if
property was for sale in Cotacachi. I had already found great
properties in Guadalajara, Mexico and Costa Rica. I wasn’t
even
thinking of retiring for another ten years… and I was
certain that I
was going to Mexico. The truck driver took me to look at a piece of
property. The owner wasn’t there, so the driver said,
“I have
a
piece of property for sale.”
When we
arrived, I stood on the cobblestone road and looked out over a
cornfield. The
two volcanoes, Cotacachi and Imbabura, were in the distance and I said,
“Okay. This is it!”

I
don’t think that I even stepped onto the property. There
was
a
feeling that welled up inside me, a feeling that perhaps in another
life I had lived on this property.
So in 1990,
I bought the
cornfield. I finished my sabbatical, then returned to Ecuador
Thanksgiving, 1991, and bought more land--the strip of woods that joins
my property.
Building the Dream
Linda – Would
you share with us what your experience in building your retreat was
like?
The
man I met on the bus and his family treated me like a member of their
family. One family member, a lawyer, offered to help me buy
the
land and to set up a company. He said he was a lawyer, but he
hadn’t finished his degree.
I didn’t
speak Spanish, didn’t know the customs. As it turned
out, he did the paperwork incorrectly.
He
also told me that I had to have an Ecuadorian partner in order to do
business in Ecuador. So I told him, “Okay, you
can have ten
percent of my company.” He dragged the whole
process out for four years. I thought it was just the
Ecuadorian way of doing business.
Linda
– Tell us about the challenges you faced during the building
process.
I
started building my retreat in 1994. I drew the primary
buildings
on graph paper and took the drawing to Ecuador. I was told
that
because I was building a business I had to have an architect do
professional plans.
The
lawyer told me to send him money for materials and payroll and I
did. “I’ll take care of everything for you,” he
promised me.

As
many Americans do, when I heard that Jorge Quilumbaqui, the
builder we
hired to do the construction, was only making $100 a
month, I thought
that amount was too low. I told the lawyer to pay him $100 per
week. That
was my first mistake, giving the idea that I would pay
far more than the customary rate.
The lawyer
introduced me to
one of his friends, one of Ecuador’s ambassadors, so I thought he
must
be a good guy. I trusted him.
He took care of all
the bills. Once when I asked him how much I owed him, he
replied, “Nothing.
I’m a partner.” I was unaware that he was
telling
others that my property was his project.
The next
mistake I made
was in inviting him and his wife to my home in the U.S. a few years
later. When he saw my large
house, my Mercedes, I guess he
decided I had so much money that I should share it with him.
He
said he needed my power of attorney in order to create the Ecuadorian
company. Now I know the
difference between giving total power
of
attorney and giving a power of attorney for specific reasons, but back
then I gave him carte blanche.
Because he
had my power of
attorney, he took out two
large loans in 1996 in my name, without my
knowledge, transferring the money into his own account. Meanwhile
I took another sabbatical in ’96 or ’97 so I could be in
Ecuador to
watch construction progress. I was doing relaxation workshops
with women from small towns in Ecuador, teaching meditation, tai chi
and testing their stress levels.

Going to
the bank where I had
my account, I told them, “I’ll
be here for a year and will be signing
my own checks.” Imagine my shock when they me
informed me that my
account
balance was only $4000, despite the fact that I had just
deposited
$30,000 into it!
The bank’s
reply was that they had withdrawn
$25,000 in interest on two loans I had not been paying.
I
went directly from the bank to the lawyer’s office.
Slamming
my
hand down on his desk, I yelled, “You
are a thief! Where’s my
money?”
His reply
was, “Shhhh. It’s all right.”
I went to
his house and talked to his wife. She knew all
about the situation but hadn’t known how to tell me.
As
I later discovered, other people in Cotacachi had wanted to tell me
what was going on but were afraid because he was a lawyer.
As the
years passed, several people told me they wished they’d said
something
to me. When I asked why they hadn’t, they said it was
because
he’d said he was my partner.
The bankers
said they
couldn’t help me, so I had to pay off the loans. In total, I lost
about $100,000. I stopped building.
For about
three weeks I
was very sick for the first time in my life. I had a cold,
lowered immunity, probably high blood pressure. It was a
difficult time for me.
Pursuing the Dream
Linda
– How did you overcome this stressful situation and complete the
building of your dream?
I
had a talk with myself: “Phyllis,
get hold of yourself. You
can run away or you can stay and fight this!” I stayed a
year in
Ecuador, then went back to the U.S. I filed suit against the
lawyer, hired my own attorney in Quito.
Sometime
after our first meeting, the lawyer who took my money
admitted one of his sons to the
hospital, where the son died. Because I felt sorry for him, I
didn’t push the case.
He
counter-sued me for $200,000, a process
that took three years to settle and proceeded from the lower courts all
the way to the Supreme Court of Ecuador. I eventually won the
suit he had against me and by then, he was out of my life.
I decided to
finish my retreat.

I
dropped my suit against him. I can still sue him because
there is
no statute of limitation in Ecuador. But I wanted it
over.
I believe in people. In my heart, I knew that I had to
forgive
him for my own good.
Linda
– Please describe your process for finding peace, forgiveness and
the
courage to continue with your dream.
Native American sweat lodge and
meditation room.
I
reminded myself, “You are alive, in good health. This is
not
the
worst thing that can happen. There is a lesson
here. You’ve
gotta forgive or else keep the upset with you every day.” So I forgave.
I
try to teach people that when
we can’t live in the moment each day, someone’s winning and it’s not us.
So try not to let someone
else
have your thoughts and feelings. If you do, you are letting
them
get to you.
My building
contractor only built the “obra negra,”
the skeleton of the main building and the nine unit suites
outside. I subcontracted out the rest, the floors,
windows,
tile. I chose the best materials I could find, like chanul, a
hardwood like oak. I had custom wood furniture made.
In 2000 I Opened
Lueva
Linda
– What kinds of programs evolved at your retreat center?
My
first group numbered twenty-six, all from an Ecuadorian
company.
Later others trickled in after seeing my website.
I’d worked
with the
German company Seimens and they were going to send me people.
But
because I stopped building and was 3 years behind
schedule, when I
was finally ready, they weren’t. A new guy had taken over
the
position of the man helping me and he didn’t follow through with
clients for me.

Sometimes
there were people here and sometimes
none at all. After that first big group, the most I had was
about
14 people at a time. I found that I preferred to work
one-on-one
and I’d give 3-day workshops for only one participant.
I
specialized in weight
reduction, overcoming addictions and stress
management.
Later I operated Lueva as a day spa,
allowing people
to use the indoor pool, hot tub, steam room, sauna and Turkish
baths.
About this
time it occurred to me that maybe I’m just the
architect of Lueva and am meant to turn it over to
someone else. I have been an architect of sorts all my
life.
After
building a national gymnastics team, I handed it over to someone
else. After building internship programs in industrial
health, I
passed them on to someone else.
I
developed and taught
stress management and sport psychology courses at the College of New
Jersey, relinquishing them to other faculty after 20 years.
After
developing programs for Fortune 500 companies—Forbes,
Johnson and Johnson--stress management, smoking abatement,
weight loss, again I trained someone else to do them.
I
operated the retreat until 2006, going back and forth about
selling. I
considered turning Lueva into an old folks’ home. Then one day I asked
myself, “What am I doing here? I want to be free!”
Freedom
is going back to having just a little house, taking time to sit on the
patio, looking at the views and not having to worry about full-time
help. I know that I already have a lot of freedom, but I want
more!”
I Was Raised with a Strong Work
Ethic
Linda
– Tell us about your childhood.
My
father was a carpenter and my mother worked in a health
department. I grew up in Maryland but was born in Washington
D.C.
because there was no hospital in our town. The sixth of seven
children, I began to work around the age of 14 or 15.

Ironically,
although we had little money, my dad’s mother was wealthy.
But
the $250,000 inheritance he received when my grandmother died quickly
disappeared.
My mother was
the world’s kindest person. Working
in the health field, she was exposed to people in need. Our
house
often had lots of extra children staying with us. Instead
of
stray dogs, my mother brought home kids.
Once she
took in a family and their four or five children. That
Thanksgiving we received a gift basket of food, the kind that is given
to the poor. It hit me, “We must be poor!” When
I
look back, it was only because we’d taken in that large family.
Linda
– What was your educational background and career path?
I
majored in health science and physical education with a minor in
psychology at the University of Maryland. During
a summer job I
went into a grocery store to buy some fruit for lunch and met my future
husband, who is seven
years older.
We married
a year later, at
the end of my sophomore year, and six years later our first son, Scott,
was born. Three years after that, Kevin
was born.
I was
in gymnastics the first part of my career,
teaching health and phys ed, gymnastics and other sports in a junior
high school for 2 years. I was selected to represent
the
state of Maryland at a national gymnastics symposium.
From
that symposium, I was invited to teach at Westchester State University,
even without a masters’ degree. Burgess Publishing
Company asked me to write my first
book in 1968, “Gymnastics
for Women,” later
renamed, “Gymnastics
for Men and Women.”
After
finishing my masters’ in psycho-educational process and exercise
physiology, I moved on to teaching statistics and psychology.
Certification followed in the areas of sports psychology, biofeedback
and stress management. I gave seminars in Saudi Arabia,
Canada,
Mexico and the U.S.
I’d return home and
say to my son, “Hey, Scott! Remember
me?”
On
our 25th wedding anniversary my husband and I decided to divorce, but
waited another year. Our divorce was amicable.
Mastering Stress Became My Life's
Work
Linda – What are some of the
experiences that have shaped your life’s direction?
When
I was about 15 I saw a picture of the cross at Rio de Janeiro and
wanted to go there one day. I don’t really know
why. It was
just so far away. My parents were strict. No
lipstick until
I was 16.
I was
athletic, a gymnast even after I married, a national
gymnast. When I had my first son at the age of 26, we had a
woman
care for him in our home. I put him into a nursery school
after I
searched and searched to find the right one for him.
One day I
received a call that my 3-year-old
son had been in an accident.
I
rushed to the hospital to be told that they would have to
remove his
eye.
At the
time, I was coaching gymnastics. I had often
observed how athletes worked so hard and do so well in practice, yet
screwed up in meets. This, coupled with my son’s accident,
led me
to want to learn to manage athletic stress, my own stress and to
enhance performance.
After that, things began
to just come to
me. New
techniques would pop into my head,
concepts I hadn’t
studied in school, like forgiveness, the importance of
self-talk.
I tried them on myself first because I was a very concerned mother.
I
was pregnant with Kevin at the time of Scott’s accident,
but I didn’t know it. When Kevin was born, I was very
worried
about him. I took him to the hospital and said, “My child can’t
hear.”
The doctor
told me I was just an anxious mother because
of Scott’s accident—overprotective. I returned one
month
later
and again was reassured that nothing was wrong with Kevin’s
hearing.
So
I changed doctors and they listened to me. When they tested
him,
they found that he indeed, could not hear. At the age of 5
months, doctors performed an ear operation and Kevin could
hear!
The very next day he began to walk, toddling around inside his crib.
These
occurrences made me think about the stresses that we all
encounter. If I could help myself, I could also help
others. And that is what I wanted to do.
I would
talk to
myself in a mirror, saying, “You’re strong.
It’s not my
fault. I wasn’t home with my kids. I feel guilty,
but if I
feel guilty, I can’t do my job as a mother or a teacher.”
This
technique worked for me.

My
dissertation: “The
Effects
of Biomedical, Physiological, and Psychological Techniques on
Performance Enhancement,” was done
with
national-level
gymnasts using control groups from all over the country
.
After
the results proved very successful, some executives that I was working
with in the Philadelphia and Princeton area invited me to do the same
program with their employees.
Ideas Would Just Come
to Me
Linda
– Can you give an example of how you work?
Many of the
techniques I’ve done with
people were not learned in courses. I learned from my
students
and clients, from observation and from inner guidance.
One
method involved having students/clients draw trees
representing
each member in their childhood family.
(Phyllis
did this
technique with me and she is very intuitive. She accurately
pegged the dynamics operating in my family of origin.)
Even
though I am no longer operating Lueva, I still offer help when I feel
it is appropriate. Recently I met a very stressed woman
from
Panama on the plane to Mexico City. She was a designer and
was
also having problems with her son. As we talked, I could tell that
her son was probably an indigo child, so I coached her to allow him to
grow, not to castigate him.
She wanted
to know what she could do
to persuade people to buy her line of clothing. I reminded
her to
be honest, to be herself and to look people in the eye when she talked
to them.
Linda – What is your advice for
others wanting to live in Ecuador?
Are
you running to or running from something? If
you are not happy
with yourself, you are not going to make it here. If you are
looking for something or someone to make you happy, then you
won’t feel
happy anywhere in the world.
If you
choose to live in another
country, learn the
language. It’s also very important not to want
the
same things you had or want things done the same way they were done in
your home
country.
Linda – What’s next for you?
Right
now I want a couple
of years to do things just for me, to spend time in Mexico with my
boyfriend. When Lueva is sold, I will go to Mexico and buy a
house.
I want to
travel to Madagascar. It’s always been on my
list. I don’t know Spain. I want to see the
pyramids.


